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	<title>Comments on: Cost Effectiveness Vs The Elderly</title>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2009/02/23/cost-effectiveness-vs-the-elderly/comment-page-1/#comment-40499</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve only seen slight hints of her thoughts about old people. A while back she posted an article written by some doctor who advocates rationing of health care services to older people- blatant, right up front kind of guy he was...and is. She didn&#039;t endorse his stance directly, but the fact she allowed him to post his extreme views tells me a lot. The post mentioned here appears to me to be one of those rants we think about alot, write out and HIT SEND before thinking....I got the feeling she was more angry at Rush Limbaugh than she is at old people- angry at him for daring to mention the things she doesn&#039;t agree with. 

It&#039;s sad when we allow politics to enter the discussion- it really ruins the debate. I honestly believe this is a moot issue: Human life is valuable and doctors and their patients should have the final say on what treatments, drugs, surgeries and what not are viable. Each human being is different and so is their health care. Everyone needs to remember this. IF we go down the road of endorsing ANY form of rationing, who will check us when we decide handicapped kids or brain injured adults or people with too many freckles....you get my point. It does need to be said: The Health Care Board Obama is talking about was used before in history. The Nazi&#039;s first used it back in the mid 1930&#039;s to determine who would receive what forms of services...and it led to concentration camps and the Holocaust. We cannot forget history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only seen slight hints of her thoughts about old people. A while back she posted an article written by some doctor who advocates rationing of health care services to older people- blatant, right up front kind of guy he was&#8230;and is. She didn&#8217;t endorse his stance directly, but the fact she allowed him to post his extreme views tells me a lot. The post mentioned here appears to me to be one of those rants we think about alot, write out and HIT SEND before thinking&#8230;.I got the feeling she was more angry at Rush Limbaugh than she is at old people- angry at him for daring to mention the things she doesn&#8217;t agree with. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad when we allow politics to enter the discussion- it really ruins the debate. I honestly believe this is a moot issue: Human life is valuable and doctors and their patients should have the final say on what treatments, drugs, surgeries and what not are viable. Each human being is different and so is their health care. Everyone needs to remember this. IF we go down the road of endorsing ANY form of rationing, who will check us when we decide handicapped kids or brain injured adults or people with too many freckles&#8230;.you get my point. It does need to be said: The Health Care Board Obama is talking about was used before in history. The Nazi&#8217;s first used it back in the mid 1930&#8242;s to determine who would receive what forms of services&#8230;and it led to concentration camps and the Holocaust. We cannot forget history.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2009/02/23/cost-effectiveness-vs-the-elderly/comment-page-1/#comment-40495</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I havennot noticed bias in every article at that site but it is there now and again. More like resentment to old people. Since their old and no longer capable of being productive members of society- taxpaying- let&#039;s just limit their choices in life or death. Disgusting. I don&#039;t think she really means to be this way,but she does come off that way at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I havennot noticed bias in every article at that site but it is there now and again. More like resentment to old people. Since their old and no longer capable of being productive members of society- taxpaying- let&#8217;s just limit their choices in life or death. Disgusting. I don&#8217;t think she really means to be this way,but she does come off that way at times.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve beem reading TNOA for a couple months now and it&#039;s very biased against old people in general. Which makes no sense. But for me I see bias in almost every posting. It&#039;s almost as though the author wishes old people would just go away, stop infringing into their adult children&#039;s lives- they&#039;re such an inconvience, and so on. 

The world is full of too many selfish Baby Boomer generation people.  It&#039;s not all about them and aging parents who need help, are bringing this home. The selfish forget how much sacrifice their parents made on behalf of them when they were babies and little kids.  The circle of life should not be broken, but people like Jane Gross break it all the time and it angers me to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve beem reading TNOA for a couple months now and it&#8217;s very biased against old people in general. Which makes no sense. But for me I see bias in almost every posting. It&#8217;s almost as though the author wishes old people would just go away, stop infringing into their adult children&#8217;s lives- they&#8217;re such an inconvience, and so on. </p>
<p>The world is full of too many selfish Baby Boomer generation people.  It&#8217;s not all about them and aging parents who need help, are bringing this home. The selfish forget how much sacrifice their parents made on behalf of them when they were babies and little kids.  The circle of life should not be broken, but people like Jane Gross break it all the time and it angers me to no end.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also want to add that I took heart in some of the comments left at this article. While most agreed with the need for cost comparisons, many also stated the issues should not be decided upon by any government. I agree that this is where it&#039;s headed: Government control over care options. We might need to go this route though cause everything&#039;s so expensive...so lone as life isn&#039;t denied to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also want to add that I took heart in some of the comments left at this article. While most agreed with the need for cost comparisons, many also stated the issues should not be decided upon by any government. I agree that this is where it&#8217;s headed: Government control over care options. We might need to go this route though cause everything&#8217;s so expensive&#8230;so lone as life isn&#8217;t denied to people.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She comes across as a vindictive bitter b-tch. I&#039;m sorry for the harshness. But she has problems.

I got the impression she resents old people, who in her opinion don&#039;t **want** health care because people like her tell them not to be a burden.

I have never seen residents get all these tests either. The only time they do is when family insists- which BYW it is family who demand all the treatments and surgeries. I have also witnessed firsthand, nurses who deny care based upon a DNR. One man I worked with had a UTI and the nurse refused to give him his antibiotics. She was of course fired- but her attitude wasn&#039;t lone.

When we start to respect old people some of this will change. Until then, they are at the mercy of our ever-growing society of selfish, ME PEOPLE. it saddens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She comes across as a vindictive bitter b-tch. I&#8217;m sorry for the harshness. But she has problems.</p>
<p>I got the impression she resents old people, who in her opinion don&#8217;t **want** health care because people like her tell them not to be a burden.</p>
<p>I have never seen residents get all these tests either. The only time they do is when family insists- which BYW it is family who demand all the treatments and surgeries. I have also witnessed firsthand, nurses who deny care based upon a DNR. One man I worked with had a UTI and the nurse refused to give him his antibiotics. She was of course fired- but her attitude wasn&#8217;t lone.</p>
<p>When we start to respect old people some of this will change. Until then, they are at the mercy of our ever-growing society of selfish, ME PEOPLE. it saddens me.</p>
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