I made a mortal error the other day. I broke the TOS over at ALLNurses.com.
I discovered they had a CNA forum a couple months ago and have been reading it when I have time. In not one posting over there has anyone ever dared to share a resource with the intended audience. So I decided to link to this site.
BIG BOOBOO. Within a couple hours I received this:
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Apr 18, 2008 08:29 PM
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jb2u (Husband, Father)
Dear Member,As per the terms of service for this website, the following post has been deleted.
Originally Posted by Patti1029:
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I have been a reader of these forums for a long time and just found this specific forum for CNA’s! This is wonderful. I wanted to share with other CNA’s my web site, which has been around for over 10 yrs now-
NursingAssistants.netThere is much information there that I think is worth sharing with others. I will link to this forum now that it up and running!
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(From the terms of service….)
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Whatever. I guess I can’t complain too much as I didn’t read the TOS and never have. And I know CNA’s are not nurses.
What bothers me most about this is the fact that ALLnurses started a forum for CNA’s- whom everyone knows are the lowest paid members of the team. Most of us are lucky if we earn more than 10 or 12 bucks an hour…on wages like that, how can ALLnurses expect a CNA to BUY advertising space on their site?? Gee whiz. Why don’t they have a free resource page?
I COULD charge people who link to this site which gets over a million hits a month; but I don’t. Money isn’t everything to us. It is to ALLnurses though, who brag non stop about the hits they get each month. Bet they make good money too on all of us. I know all too well the costs involved with keeping up this site and the forum that goes with it. I knew it ahead of time and took the chance that I would be able to fund these costs. Every web site owner knows this and takes the risks associated. ALLnurses is no exception.
The least they could do is have a resource page for nurse and CNA web sites that are not out to make a buck. It would cost THEM nothing to do this but it might give them some respect from the little people on the Internet.
Patti, one thing I have admired about you is your willingness to share resources and your inclusiveness. When I started my blog a little over a year ago, you were one of the first to include it on your blog listing. I had approached you because I have a special respect for CNA’s, whom I came to know through my work as a hospice volunteer in Detroit nursing homes. I had written a post celebrating the work they do.
Since then, I have discovered how rare your inclusiveness is. While I do believe people should be selective about whom they include on their blogs, some websites exclude to the extreme. Including even the name of your non-commercial blog in a comment is considered “self-promoting.” Many want others to support their blogs and make no mention of supporting other blogs. I am pleased to report that my blog is doing very well, and I continue to support nursing assistants.
For CNA’s (and others) with a particular interest in hospice care, know that you are welcome to join the new Hospice Community Forum website that started last week. There is a nursing group that includes nurses and nursing assistants together. Your input as CNA’s would be appreciated.
As always, I wish you continued success. Frances Shani Parker
I’m sorry Patti, that this happened. I have visited AN and have participated as well, but several of my messages also got deleted - why? I have no idea. I didn’t link to any blogs or self promoting sites that is for sure.
I was just at AN and thought they did have a resource page, but you’re right, if they do I cannot find it. That ssems to be a really poor decision on their part. But then again, they seem pretty into themselves so they probably don’t want to send anyone away to other sites. AN is ok and it’s nothing but a huge place to whine and complain (and we need to do that) - but there are also some good messages about the everyday stuff we face. There is nothing as comprehensive as what it offered here though. And much of the info at AN is shared by others who are not experts in what they are advising on.
Don’t take it to heart Patti. AN is nothing compared to the many very excellent and educational blogs and sites out there for nurses and aides. You do far more here than they would ever do with the TOS they have.
I was wondering if a CNA can work in a pivate persons home as advertised in a newspaper for example, without the state registration? I have graduated the CNA program and passed my in school clinicals and demonstrations of. I took the class intiially to get into nursing school, inwhich they only rewuire you pass the class and not require state certification. I am hesitant about taking the state of WI. test, because there use to be no such test needed. I beleive … it is a big time. money maker, and to pay additional fees to the state, which guidelines are alot more rigid then the class, and then to pay on going to keep retaking it, to me is rediculous. I am not sure, its worth all that I have already earned in class. Anyone else feel the same and has anyone else found an alternate path that does not require state registration? There is a nursing home by my house that will train you without the state involved and put you to work. I just do not want to work in long term care.
NO! CNA’s must work under the direct supervision of an RN. To do otherwise you are breaking laws.
A person can work in a private home, as a companion, though, without worrying about laws and practice rules. You cannot advertise your services as a CNA without the supervision portion.
The fees we pay for certification go to the state Nurse Aide registry- which is mandated by your federal government. The registry maintains a list of all CNA’s in the state and what they’re status is; and who has been convicted of abuse or neglect. It is there as a pubic safety -anyone can call and ask about the status of a CNA.
Thank you Shani. We try to be as inclusive as possible. I am going to make a CNA blog roll soon as I see we have a few bloggers now.
ALLNurses is not inclusive. It’s nothing more than a glorified message board and it’s very popular for now. As blogs become more useful for nurses and aides though, places like AN will end. The limits they set for their sites will do them in I hate to say.
Patti,
Sorry, but your wrong! I called the proper places to ask this question, and was told that care givers can be hired independently to come in and do light house keeping, errands and basic care. People advertise in the newspaper in WI all the time for these types of positions. No matter if I call my self a CNA or a Care Giver, I am one in the same, passed the class and have my school certificate in hand to show the person and or their family. The only differnce is that I will be with one patient regualarly and have no benefits. I will be self employed. The state is a big time money maker and many I have spoken with are getting fed up. At a time of a recession when people need jobs, is not the time to take advantage of making money off CNAS. Nurses should also be required then to do the same.
Patti, I have been trying to contact you to mail you something. The e-mail address listed does not work. I tried adding a “d” to make it cnafeedback@gmail.com, but I haven’t received a response. Please assist, as others may be experiencing this problem.