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		<title>By: Holly</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34346</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mentioned this to the nurses I worked with over the weekend. THEY said CNA\&#039;s have no legal right to evaluate them- RN\&#039;s- because they supervise US and our work. The nurses said if they got an eval with feedback from aides, they would quit. CNA\&#039;s are not able to *assess* the work of a nurse nor are we educated to make judgements on their work.

I asked about the non nursing aspects. Like leading, managing, supervising, ability to be fair and honest; and about keeping morale up. They were all pretty quiet about this. Figures.

I would not evaluate a nurses\&#039; work; but I would their ability to be a decent manager. After all I am the one who is being managed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned this to the nurses I worked with over the weekend. THEY said CNA\&#8217;s have no legal right to evaluate them- RN\&#8217;s- because they supervise US and our work. The nurses said if they got an eval with feedback from aides, they would quit. CNA\&#8217;s are not able to *assess* the work of a nurse nor are we educated to make judgements on their work.</p>
<p>I asked about the non nursing aspects. Like leading, managing, supervising, ability to be fair and honest; and about keeping morale up. They were all pretty quiet about this. Figures.</p>
<p>I would not evaluate a nurses\&#8217; work; but I would their ability to be a decent manager. After all I am the one who is being managed.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34341</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of being able to evaluate peers and my nurses I feel us CNA could give valuable feed back on how the RNs are supervising us and how well they address issues that occur during the shift. As for my peers I feel it is essential to address the need for further training</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of being able to evaluate peers and my nurses I feel us CNA could give valuable feed back on how the RNs are supervising us and how well they address issues that occur during the shift. As for my peers I feel it is essential to address the need for further training</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34315</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...it also places us in an awkward position at times too. I can imagine the nurse seeing the DON give us those feedback forms...and they would KNOW who gave it. NO THANKS. no forms.

Ask me and I might tell. But I won&#039;t put it in writing. I WILL document problems though and I could care less if the nurse see&#039;s that stuff...in fact, I usually give the nurse in question a copy of the problems and letter. Puts me in the hot seat for a little bit maybe...but it&#039;s not like I haven&#039;t gone to the nurse in person and talked about the issue (s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;it also places us in an awkward position at times too. I can imagine the nurse seeing the DON give us those feedback forms&#8230;and they would KNOW who gave it. NO THANKS. no forms.</p>
<p>Ask me and I might tell. But I won&#8217;t put it in writing. I WILL document problems though and I could care less if the nurse see&#8217;s that stuff&#8230;in fact, I usually give the nurse in question a copy of the problems and letter. Puts me in the hot seat for a little bit maybe&#8230;but it&#8217;s not like I haven&#8217;t gone to the nurse in person and talked about the issue (s).</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34302</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 14:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I said, it was as if they were trying but did not think things through carefully enough or the directors did not follow instructions properly if you know what I mean.  Yeah I do not believe in peer evals.  I think it is just a time for other aids to glorify themselves by pointing out what others do wrong in a ridicules manner.  I personally would rather boost them up with the things they are doing right if I am there peer.  If I were a supervisor then it would be a little different as far as giving gentle constructive criticism. But as far as giving evals as a peer I do not feel it is my place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I said, it was as if they were trying but did not think things through carefully enough or the directors did not follow instructions properly if you know what I mean.  Yeah I do not believe in peer evals.  I think it is just a time for other aids to glorify themselves by pointing out what others do wrong in a ridicules manner.  I personally would rather boost them up with the things they are doing right if I am there peer.  If I were a supervisor then it would be a little different as far as giving gentle constructive criticism. But as far as giving evals as a peer I do not feel it is my place.</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34298</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s dumb Carmen, of the bosses to do that. Did they even realize this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s dumb Carmen, of the bosses to do that. Did they even realize this?</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34297</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 00:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mary when I have filled out those about peers I have tried to be very fair. Cause I know what a good eval feels like, and a bad one must really SUCK. I try to be honest but not to overlook problem areas- this can be a tough seat to sit in. While we want others to know where they&#039;re problems are, we don&#039;t want to shoot down their morale to the point they hate coming to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mary when I have filled out those about peers I have tried to be very fair. Cause I know what a good eval feels like, and a bad one must really SUCK. I try to be honest but not to overlook problem areas- this can be a tough seat to sit in. While we want others to know where they&#8217;re problems are, we don&#8217;t want to shoot down their morale to the point they hate coming to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmen</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34293</link>
		<dc:creator>Carmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We used to get a random survey that went to random people about how the administrators and nurses were doing and we did not have to give our name, however the bad part about it was the administrators and nurses gave the surveys out personally so there for they got to choose whom would get to complain.  Did not make any sense to me but if perhaps all the staff were given these surveys, well then, that would be something amazing. Seems they were trying to get on the right track they just did not think things through carefully enough. 

Carmen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We used to get a random survey that went to random people about how the administrators and nurses were doing and we did not have to give our name, however the bad part about it was the administrators and nurses gave the surveys out personally so there for they got to choose whom would get to complain.  Did not make any sense to me but if perhaps all the staff were given these surveys, well then, that would be something amazing. Seems they were trying to get on the right track they just did not think things through carefully enough. </p>
<p>Carmen</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34288</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ICU I worked in did peer evals. Sometimes we can be a better judge of what our peers are or are not doing. The manager gave the eval to the person but it was written by 2 peers who were anonymous and the manager added her comments as well
  Mary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ICU I worked in did peer evals. Sometimes we can be a better judge of what our peers are or are not doing. The manager gave the eval to the person but it was written by 2 peers who were anonymous and the manager added her comments as well<br />
  Mary</p>
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		<title>By: Patti</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34279</link>
		<dc:creator>Patti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DON where I work just comes around and asks us for thoughts.
One way or the other...I work weekends (and OT once in awhile) so we don&#039;t see her too much...the w/e nurse manager will ask us, on our own, if we have any concerns and input. 

When something happens with a charge nurse- say, she YELLS at an aide- and we&#039;re around to hear it- we let the DON know through email. Not everyone has work email though so a quick note will work as well. Just the facts...date, time, who, where...as an FYI for the DON. I guess these incidents get logged into some critical incident report log system they have attached to the eval program (on the computers). It goes both ways too- when a nurse does something reallllly good we report that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DON where I work just comes around and asks us for thoughts.<br />
One way or the other&#8230;I work weekends (and OT once in awhile) so we don&#8217;t see her too much&#8230;the w/e nurse manager will ask us, on our own, if we have any concerns and input. </p>
<p>When something happens with a charge nurse- say, she YELLS at an aide- and we&#8217;re around to hear it- we let the DON know through email. Not everyone has work email though so a quick note will work as well. Just the facts&#8230;date, time, who, where&#8230;as an FYI for the DON. I guess these incidents get logged into some critical incident report log system they have attached to the eval program (on the computers). It goes both ways too- when a nurse does something reallllly good we report that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://nursingassistants.net/2007/02/25/supervison/comment-page-1/#comment-34260</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s funny but is it possible? I say it is. Ask your boss.
All they can say is NO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s funny but is it possible? I say it is. Ask your boss.<br />
All they can say is NO.</p>
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